Wednesday 18 December 2013

John C. Burch, Secretary of the Senate, 1879-1881



John C. Burch, Secretary of the Senate, 1879-1881; Father-in-Law to Charles Schiff
[http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/generic/SOS_John_Burch.htm From the official website of the United States Senate]






Sir, no Senator who has been in the discharge of his duties here long enough to know the practice of the Senate, and what is required of Senators, can fail to be impressed with the exceeding importance to him, in the discharge of his duties, and to the public who are to be benefitted by that discharge, of having a competent body of officers in the Senate, men who are trained and educated in the Senate, who know where to find what you want, how to give you information when you want it, and where to direct you to it.  It is highly important to all Senators, and more especially to Senators when they come here for the first time.  —Senator James Mason (D-VA), July 17, 1854

Secretary of the Senate John Burch died suddenly.  His wife and five children had expected him, at age fifty-four, to recover easily from a seemingly mild, but lingering illness.  With the Senate out of session for the summer of 1881, he had the opportunity to relax and follow his doctor's orders.
Saddened Senate officials and staff lost no time in arranging a meeting to plan suitable tributes.  The Senate Enrolling Clerk convened the planning session and one of the Senate's legislative clerks acted as its secretary.  To draft suitable resolutions, they appointed a committee composed of the Librarian of Congress, the Chief Reporter of Debates, and the Executive Clerk.  The resulting resolutions, adopted unanimously, expressed "the affection entertained by the officers and employees for Colonel Burch because of his uniform courtesy, kindness and consideration: testifying to the faithfulness and ability with which he had performed the duties of his office, and indeed all the duties, public and private, of life."  The meeting appointed pall bearers, including five senators, and resolved that the Sergeant at Arms would drape the Secretary's Office [Room S-224] in mourning for thirty days.   
* * * * *
A festive mood swept the Senate Democratic caucus on March 20, 1879, as members gathered to celebrate taking control of the Senate majority for the first time in eighteen years.  None of the caucus's forty-three members in 1879 had been senators in 1859, the last time Democrats had organized the Senate.  In the intervening years, the nation had suffered a disastrous civil war and a bitter reconstruction era.  By 1879, Congress had readmitted all former Confederate states.  Many observers speculated that the return of both houses of Congress to Democratic control marked the Confederacy's return to power.
Democratic Caucus members happily turned to the election of  new Senate officers, despite Republicans' futile protest that no vacancies existed.  The outraged Republicans cited a Senate resolution, adopted thirty years earlier, that ended the earlier practice of voting on these officers at the beginning of every new Congress and allowed the Secretary and Sergeant at Arms to serve during good behavior.  As far as Senate Republicans were concerned in 1879, the officers elected during the time they controlled the Senate had behaved themselves.
"Not so!" responded the Democrats.  Was not the incumbent Secretary, George Gorham, simultaneously serving as chairman of the Republican National Committee?  How could this professional partisan fairly meet the needs of the opposition?
Republicans were pleased to cite the opinion, expressed twenty-five years earlier by Democratic Senator James Mason, as to the  "exceeding importance . . . of having a competent body of officers in the Senate, men who are trained and educated in the Senate, who know where to find what you want, how to give you information when you want it, and where to direct you to it."  At the time of Mason's remarks in 1854, the Senate had increased the salaries of its officers and legislative staff specifically to ensure the permancy of these important employees.   Republicans in 1879 observed that to abruptly dismiss loyal employees in favor of untrained replacements could only harm the Senate and interrupt its proceedings.  That party's senators particularly worried that their employees, including doorkeepers who had  previously served in Union armies, might be forced to step aside in favor of southern Democratic-sponsored ex-Confederate soldiers.  (A month later, Senate Bill Clerk Henry Fritz lost his job to former Confederate Major Leigh Chambers.)
The Senate Democratic Caucus moved ahead with its plans to elect a new Secretary and other officers.  The Secretary's position attracted a great deal of interest among former members of Congress.   The eight most visible candidates included  a recently retired senator and four former House members.  
Maryland Senator George Dennis saw the Secretary's post as an ideal way to round out his long public career.  Not everyone agreed, however.  The New York Tribune, doing nothing to hide its Republican sympathies, reported that the Democratic senator had "put more vigor into his brief [campaign] for the position of Secretary than he had manifested during the six years of his Senatorial career, his record during that time being one continuous blank."  Believing it inappropriate for a former senator to become a Senate officer, caucus members ignored Dennis' bid.  They held no such reservations, however, against former House members.
Among the former members, Tennessee Representative Harvey Watterson enjoyed the strongest support.  Although Watterson had retired from Congress almost forty years earlier, he had subsequently become an influential figure in the national Democratic party and, for brief periods, editor of Democratic newspapers in Nashville and Washington.  In seeking the Secretary's post, the sixty-seven-year-old editor had an effective campaign manager in his famous son, Henry Watterson, flamboyant editor of the Louisville Courier-Journal.  When the Caucus voting began, Watterson led all other contenders, but failed to secure a majority.  As weaker candidates fell away in successive balloting, it came down to a choice between two Tennessee Democratic editors -- Watterson and John C. Burch.  On the fifth ballot, Burch won the post with twenty-four votes to Watterson's thirteen.
By selecting John Burch, whom the Republicans respected for his fierce editorial opposition to the Ku Klux Klan, rather than the more deeply partisan Harvey Watterson, the Democrats took the sting out of Republican objections.  Democrats then moved on to replace the incumbent Sergeant at Arms, Chief Clerk, Executive Clerk, and Chaplain.
John Burch was born in 1827 in Jefferson County, Georgia.  On graduating from Yale College in 1847, he returned to Georgia to study and practice law.  In 1852, he moved to Chattanooga, Tennessee.  Three years later he won election to the state house of representatives and, in 1857, to the state senate.  As speaker of the senate, he earned a reputation for judiciousness and parliamentary skill.  In those especially turbulent times, Burch was particularly proud of the fact that the senate found no cause to overturn any of his procedural rulings.  
In 1859, Burch became editor of the Nashville Union and American, Tennessee's most influential Democratic newspaper.  At the start of the Civil War, he cast his lot with the Confederacy and served successively on the military staffs of Generals Gideon Pillow, Nathan Bedford Forrest, and Jones Withers.  At war's end, he resumed his Nashville law practice and, in 1869, purchased a controlling interest in the Union and American.  Burch served subsequently as that paper's editor, business manager, and chief writer.  In 1873, he became his state's comptroller, whose "onerous duties [he] discharged with great ability, rigid integrity and perfect justice and impartiality."  Burch's parliamentary, administrative, and financial experience made him an ideal candidate to become the United States Senate's Secretary.
Within days of Burch's election, Senate Democrats introduced a resolution returning to the Secretary and Sergeant at Arms exclusive authority to appoint and remove their staffs.  For the past twenty-five years, the Senate had assigned to the Vice President power to override all such personnel actions.  But in 1879, for the first time since the 1854 adoption of that standing order, the Vice President was not a member of the party that controlled the Senate majority.  This change greatly irritated Republican leaders.
Rhode Island's Henry Anthony charged that the Democratic Caucus was now unfairly dictating the Senate's agenda and that the introduction of this resolution served as a good example of the Democratic "Juggernaut which rolls through the Senate, crushing out our venerable precedents, trampling upon our ancient usages, and breaking in upon the freedom of our discussions."
Democratic Senator George Pendleton, soon to become the father of the federal civil service system, responded that while an officer might faithfully discharge his duties, he could nevertheless, "by reason of his manner, be disagreeable to senators and therefore not a fit person to discharge acceptably the duties of the office."  So long as Senate officers were responsible to members, Pendleton believed those officers should have authority to hire and fire staff without having to answer to an official "who, however high he may be in the Government, is not a Senator upon this floor and is not charged with the duties of a Senator."  
In adopting the resolution, the Senate gave Burch a degree of authority greater than that exercised by his six predecessors.  Burch proved to be a highly competent and universally respected Secretary.  Members demonstrated that respect in March 1881, when the Senate found itself equally divided between Republicans and Democrats, by agreeing to keep him in office.  
Unfortunately, Burch had little time to develop a lasting record of accomplishments.  His death on July 28, 1881, assigned him the undesired distinction of being the Senate's shortest-serving Secretary to that time.  His demise raised immediate concerns about disbursement of Senate funds, as no provision existed for any other official to assume the Secretary's financial responsibilities.  Twenty years earlier, in 1861, the Senate had provided for the chief clerk to assume this role during the then-Secretary's illness.  When the Senate convened in October 1881, it resolved the issue by appointing Chief Clerk Francis Shober as acting Secretary.  Shober served effectively in that capacity until the Republicans regained control in March 1883.  On that occasion, it became the Democrats' turn to raise arguments about the importance of continuity among the Senate's key officials.  
Republicans smiled and held their elections.

Monday 16 December 2013

The Children of Charles and Mary Schiff, 1892

Julian Story. Portrait of the Schiff Children. 1892. Cheekwood Botanical Garden and Museum of Art. 1960.2.68

Charles Schiff



The second child and first son of Leopold Schiff and his wife Hänchen was born in Trieste on the 1st November 1838. His given name was Samuele, the name of his paternal grandfather in Mannheim, and presumably his Jewish name, as used for religious purposes. His German name was Carl Gottlieb, and he was also known as Carlo Teofilo, the latter being the Italian version of Gottlieb, and similarly meaning in its original Greek "God's love". In practice, for his adult life he was known as Charles.


Charles appears to have started his adult career in Alexandria, with the Egyptian arm of the Wollheim & Co. family shipping business. He also seems to have forged links with  London very early on. I knew nothing about Charles for quite a while, and his brothers had a much better known presence in London, but gradually over a couple of months I have amassed a great deal.


In May, 1865, Charles Schiff first appears in the British press, in relation to the bankruptcy of Wollheim & Co. in Alexandria. He would have been only 26 at this time. Edmund Wollheim, presumably a cousin on his mother's side, happened to be in London when the bankruptcy happened. For a few weeks the case featured in the press, but interestingly Wollheim & Co appear to have emerged from the affair with their high reputation for probity intact.

Charles appears to have been the first of the three brothers to make his way to London, but, except for this affair of the forced bankruptcy of the Alexandria branch of the family business, we do not know what kind of work he was engaged in, but within a few years he appears on the other side of the Atlantic, building a successful career in the United States based particularly on the development of the railway system there. According to his grandson, a clergyman in Leicester, he was the author of a booklet in the early 1870s encouraging investment in the American railway network, in particular in Alabama. This was in the period following the American Civil War [1861-65], and Charles was active in the process of economic reconstruction following that difficult period. In 1875 he is mentioned in The Times of London as being Baron Erlanger's representative. Frédéric Émile d'Erlanger was a fellow European, also of Jewish extraction, who was a leading investor in New World railways. He is still remembered as an important benefactor of the American city of Chattanooga [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frédéric_Emile_d'Erlanger].


Railways seem to have filled his time over the next few years, firstly the Alabama Great Southern Railroad Company, which advertised for investors in the Pall Mall Gazette of London in April, 1878. Charles appears to have been based in both Cincinnati and in London, using his presence in London to attract investors, and also to enlarge his portfolio of business interests, being mentioned at that time as a directorthe Crystal Palace Company (1879), the Mortgage Company of England (1882), and the Telephone Company Ltd (1883). This last venture is mentioned on 27th November, 1883, when he presided at a meeting when the company was liquidated, all shareholders receiving shares in the United Telephone Company, and a dividend. This is extremely early in the history of telephony in England: he was very much a visionary pioneer in several fields. [http://www.britishtelephones.com/histuk.htm]

This meeting took place only two months after his wedding, which suggests he spent his honeymoon travelling across the Atlantic with his bride in order to attend to his business interests. His bride was Mary Burch, who was born in Chattanooga, Tennessee, and she was 22 years old, much younger than Charles, who was by then almost 44 years old. Mary was the daughter of Col. John C. Burch, a leading Southern politician, but also the first such person to come to political prominence in the period following the Civil War of 1861-1865, being appointed secretary of the United States senate, a post he held from 1879  to 1881, dying in 1885, two years after his daughter's marriage. Mary Burch met Charles Schiff in Washington at the time of his holding office as secretary of the senate. 
His career was echoed in some ways by that of Charles Schiff: enterprising, flexible, ambitious and successful, with an important strand of trustworthiness. He was also editor for many years of 'The Nashville American', and was recognised as 'a leader of Southern thought and prominent in its affairs'. He was married to Lucy Newell and had several children.

His daughter Mary's marriage took place at their home in Nashville, Tennessee, she having studied at Vassar College in Nashville from which she graduated in 1878. I wonder if Tennessee was her mother's family home, as her father seems to have perambulated considerably from Missouri to California before spending his latter years in Tennessee, but being buried in San Francisco.

Second Version (courtesy of Elizabeth-Gaye Jeans on Geni):
About John Christopher Burch
Born in Jefferson County, Georgia, October l7, l827; son of Morton Newman and Mary (Ballard) Burch. Graduated, l847, from Yale University, New Haven, Connecticut; studied law and admitted to Georgia bar, l849.

HOUSE, 3lst General Assembly, l855-57; representing Hamilton County;
SENATE, 32nd General Assembly, l857-59; representing counties of Hamilton, Bledsoe, Bradley, Marion, and Rhea;
Democrat;
Speaker of Senate in 32nd Assembly.


Married, c.l844, to Lucy Newell; eight children--Katherine Newell, Mary Ballard, John Christopher,Jr., Charles N., Robert Lee, and Lucius Edward, and two who died in infancy.

Began practice of law at Spring Place, Murray County, Georgia; removed to Chattanooga, Hamilton County, l852, and practiced until l859; removed to Nashville, Davidson County, l859, to become editor of Nashville Union and American, a leading Democrat paper of state; after Civil War, l869, purchased controlling interest in that paper and continued as chief editor until l873.

Appointed Comptroller of Tennessee May 1, 1873, and continued to January l4, l875; elected secretary of U.S. Senate, March 24, l879, and continued until death some two years later.

A strong advocate of Southern rights, he served during Civil War on staffs of Gen. Gideon J. Pillow, Gen. Nathan B. Forrest, and Gen. Jones M. Withers, with rank of colonel.

Member Protestant Episcopal Church.

Died at Washington, D. C., July 28, 1881; buried in Mount Olivet Cemetery, Nashville.



The family still owns a silver plate presented to Mary on her marriage to Charles inscribed from 'The Chairman, Directors and Secretary of the Alabama Great Souther and Alabama, New Orleans, Texas and Pacific Junction Railways.







Mary and Charles seem to have spent the early years of married life in Cincinnati, where several of their children were born. The eldest, Catherine, was born in London in about 1885; Charles was born in Cincinnati in 1886, Lucille in 1887, Martin in 1888, Mary in 1890, and Jeanette in 1892. A portrait of the five older children survives and is now in the Museum of Art in Nashville in the United States. It was painted in 1892 by Julian Russell Story and was donated by the family to the Museum of Art in Nashville. [Cheekwood Botanical Garden and Museum of Art Nashville Tennessee Accession Number: 1960.2.68]

Portrait of the Schiff Children, 1892

Charles's business affairs continued impressively. In 1887 he is described as president of the Barcelona Tramways Company 1890 he is described as being president of the Queen and Crescent System of railways, in 1891 he is listed with his wife and children as living in London at 22, Lowndes Square, but also in Cincinnati as president of various railway companies: N O & N E R R, A & V Ry, V S & P R R.


It was at this time that Charles's nephew Sydney, eldest son of his younger brother Alfred, came to Cincinnati to work briefly with him.Sydney left an account of this time with his uncle in America in his book 'The Other Side', written under his pseudonym Stephen Hudson to disguise what is a typically autobiographical work masquerading as fiction. Similarly, the account of his mésalliance with his first wife is the novel called 'Elinor Colehouse'. Both books give information about his uncle and his world in America.




The Standard 2/12/1887
The Alabama and  Texas Railways
A meeting of the debenture holders of the Alabama, New Orleans, Texas, and Pacific Junction Railways Company was held yesterday at the Cannon-street Hotel. Captain Francis Parry, the receiver and liquidator, presided, and, in the course of a lengthy address explaining the position of the company's affairs, stated that theirs was not a railway company, but a trust, the money of which had been invested in the purchase of different railways and other properties in the United States. Fortunately, their affairs in America were in the hands of Mr Charles Schiff, who was very well known in London, and to whose ability, anergy, and integrity he himself could testify. There were claims from creditors to the extent of 143,738l., but as only a small amount of that was represented by claims not secured by the deposit of bonds, practically no danger need be apprehended on that account. The capital of the company was 3,700,000l., exclusive of the B shares, which were issued fully paid up, in order to assist in raising the capital. Outside  the railways, they had 138,774l. invested in other properties; and in the New Orleans and North-Eastern, the Vicksburg Shreveport, and Pacific, the Cincinnati, Southern, and the Vicksburg and Meridian Railwaysin bonds, stocks, &c, they had invested 2,959,013l. The balance of the capital had gone in discounts on bond issues, commissions and expenses, interest on bonds, &c. They had also allowed prior lieu bonds to be issued, having a preference over their holding. He next alluded to the working of the lines mentioned, and said that if the New Orleans  and North-Eastern, the Vicksburg, Shreveport and Pacific, and the Vicksburg and Meridian lines earned 5000 dols. a mile, and they could be worked at 70 per cent., the amount payable to the company would be 84,000l., and in addition there  was the interestey might possibly receive from their Cincinnati Southern shares as well as a return on their other properties. The interest on the first mortgages amounted to 90,000l. As to the future, the bonded debt of the roads the company were interested in was not excessive, and undoubtedly great progress was now being made in the south ofthe United States, from which he could not but think that they would be benefitted. He had no intention, as some of the bondholders appeared to think, to sell their securities and distribute the assets or to form any scheme...






In the late 1890s Charles appears again in the British press as part of a new scheme, a company called Manchester Liners Ltd, with the purpose of providing shipping from Manchester via the Ship Canal to Canada. It operated successfully for many decades. The chairman was Sir Christopher Furness, whose shipping firm Furness Withy was later to employ Charles's younger son Martin.

By now I suspect that Charles was beginning to feel his age, and his health was beginning to suffer. In the 1901 census he is described as a retired banker. He died on 17th August, 1905, aged 66, leaving his wife and young family -  his youngest daughter was probably not even ten years old.

His declining years are alluded to in a fragment written by his nephew Sydney and published after Sydney's death:


It is strange that when things go very badly with me, my steps turn towards Lowndes Square. Aunt Kate, her personality, her life and her children have nothing in common with me. And yet this very contradiction draws me in that direction. The stability, the respectability of such lives, the qualities antithetic to my own which make them what they are, the complacent finality of their attitude to everything under the sun, their sureness that things are naturally and obviously so and can’t be otherwise for decent people, have a soothing effect upon me for a short time.The attraction must be a compound of sentiment and association. I persist in cherishing the notion of Uncle Theo’s highmindedness and endow Aunt Kate with a dim reflexion of it. I must have some atavistic bias towards respectability, an unconscious nostalgia for contact with remote ancestral virtues. Uncle Theo was, I suppose, the highest minded of the three brothers, according to the accepted code of the right-minded citizen. My father so stood out from the others, was so superior to them in intellectual grasp, in knowledge of the world and in personal charm that I have difficulty in applying the same standard to him as to Uncle Theo who was the most honourable as Uncle Fred is the least, as he was kindlier, more benevolent than Uncle Fred is now, whatever he may have been at the beginning. And yet Uncle Fred in his meanest moments, when I come near hating him, has a glowing intensity, an uncompromising self-sufficiency that force my admiration. Uncle Fred is in fact non-moral whereas Uncle Theo was essentially moral; his ideal was respectability. And by a strange irony it was he who at various moments of crisis in my life stood in the breach. I see his stout respectable figure in a pugilistic attitude defending the devil (me) from Fate, whose retributions his worthy conscience nevertheless fully approves. I think of him as I walk across the Park. How heartily he would have disapproved of everything I have done, am doing and am likely to do. Each stage in my walk marks a stage backwards into the past. At the bridge over the Serpentine I’ve got back to my marriage and Uncle Theo’s cable to Dr. Flössheim. I time it nicely. My hand and my memory reach together the bronze knocker I brought back from Italy, nominally as a present to him, actually the memorial of a night nearly thirty years ago when a small frightened boy rang the bell I am ringing now and got the answer that turned him back, a forlorn figure, into the foggy street. Alone then. Alone now.Poor old Uncle Theo—died an imbecile muttering ‘We shall all end in the gutter—in the gutter’—softening of the brain. ‘One of your aunt’s days at home!’ he used to exclaim with a grimace on such occasions as this.Room full of rubbish, salad of bad pictures and worthless ornaments. Aunt Kate sitting in a corner of sofa behind loaded tea-table, island of teacups surrounded by chairs, a couple of girl cousins—general effect of brotherliness in the Lord plus American brand of amiability—curious hybrid accent, London and Nashville. Inchoate acquaintances, solidly respectable, dull joyfulness about nothing…… Other people came into the drawing-room, the sort of people Aunt Kate seems to know endless numbers of. I’ve never met them anywhere else. Tea is served. My girl cousins begin bantering me in a peculiar uncle-Theo-like way which is supposed to be funny…





I have one item which gives a very special insight into the domestic life of Charles Schiff and his wife: the inventory made in infinitesimal detail following his death of every item in his home at 22, Lowndes Square. There is still a copy in the possession of the family; my copy came to me from a bookseller acquaintance in Devon who purchased it from the widow of a doctor in Norfolk. There are over one hundred foolscap pages, and deserves its own longer section which I shall write. 22, Lowndes Square was an imposing residence, the birthplace of the father of the Queen Mother. Charles died in 1905 leaving a considerable fortune.

Saturday 26 October 2013

Giustina Schiff/Justina Rodenberg

Believed to be a photograph of Giustina Schiff


2. Giustina (later: Justina), born 28.7.1837 in Trieste, married Julius Rodenberg (*1831, +1914) 1863 in Berlin, died 1923


Leopold and Johanna's second child, again a daughter, was born in Trieste on 28th July 1837, and was named Giustina. Raised and educated in Trieste, at the age of 26 she married Julius Rodenberg in Berlin, where she lived for the rest of her life.

Her husband is remembered as an important German writer in the latter part of the nineteenth century, and it is as such that he merits a Wikipedia entry:



Julius Rodenberg (26 June 1831, Rodenberg, Hesse - 11 July 1914) was a German Jewish poet and author.

He studied law at the universities of Heidelberg, Göttingen, Berlin, and Marburg, but soon abandoned jurisprudence for literature. In 1851 his first poem, "Dornröschen", appeared in Bremen. This poem was soon followed by many others. Between 1855 and 1862 he traveled, visiting Great Britain, Belgium, the Netherlands, Denmark, Italy, and Switzerland. In 1859 he settled in Berlin.

Rodenberg wrote the libretto to Anton Rubinstein's opera, Feramors.

Literary works:



From 1867 to 1874 he was coeditor with Ernst Dohm of the "Salon für Literatur, Kunst und Gesellschaft", and in his latter years he founded the Deutsche Rundschau.
In 1897 he received the title "Professor". Rodenberg is a prolific writer.
Of his works may be mentioned:
"Lieder", Hanover, 1854
"Pariser Bilderbuch", Brunswick, 1856
"Kleine Wanderchronik", Hanover, 1858
"Ein Herbst in Wales", ib. 1857
"Die Insel der Seligen," Berlin, 1860
"Alltagsleben in London," ib. 1860
"Die Harfe von Erin," ib. 1861
"Tag und Nacht in London," ib. 1862
"Lieder und Gedichte," ib. 1863 (6th ed., 1901)
"Studienreisen in England," Leipzig, 1872
"Belgien und die Belgier," Berlin, 1881
"Bilder aus dem Berliner Leben," ib. 1885 (3d ed., 1891)
"Unter den Linden," ib. 1888
"Franz Dingelstedt," ib. 1891
"Erinnerungen aus der Jugendzeit," ib. 1899
Novels[edit]
"Die Strassensängerin von London," Berlin, 1863
"Die Neue Sündflut," ib. 1865
"Von Gottes Gnaden," ib. 1870
"Die Grandidiers", Stuttgart, 1879 (2d ed., 1881), a story of the Franco-Prussian war
"Herrn Schellbogens Abenteuer," Berlin, 1890
"Klostermanus Grundstück," ib. 1890 (2d ed., 1892)

Giustina, whose name became germanicised as Justina upon her marriage and removal to Berlin, appears to  have supported her husband in his literary work and in his literary circle in Berlin. We have a clue to this in the correspondence with Count Angelo de Gubernatis, a philologist and student of Sanskrit who studied in Turin and Berlin. As a poet he must have enjoyed the company of Julius Rodenberg, but the fact that Rodenberg's wife Justina was Italian speaking must have been an additional attraction. The eighteen letters that she wrote to de Gubernatis between 1873 and 1892 are now  National Central Library in Florence.
It is possible that Giustina met Julius during his travels in Europe between 1855 and 1862. Married in Berlin in 1863, their only child, a daughter, Alice, was born on 21st May 1864.
Julius Rodenberg died on 11th July 1914 shortly before the outbreak of the First World War. The war broke the family networkof the Schiffs. When Giustina's brother Ernest died in London just days before the end of the war, his will left her some money which could not be transferred because of the breakdown between the two empires. His legacy was to Giustina in Berlin, and to Jenny in Hamburg, and after their deaths to Giustina's niece Alice, who had married a Noehring, and on Alice's death the whole funds involved were to go to Alice's son Richard Noehring. These siblings who had grown up together in Trieste had a closeness that survived their dispersal far and wide across Europe and America.
Giustina died in Berlin on  8th December 1823. Because she left estate in England through the legacy from her brother Ernest letters of administration were granted to Richard Nohring. From this we knowthat her home in Berlin was at Margaretenstrasse 1. We have no knowledge now of Richard Noehring, and if he had any descendants.
Giustina, Julius and religion.

Both Giustina and her husband were born to Jewish parents but both were typical of the process of assimilation demonstrated by European Jewry after emancipation. Julius was advised in 1853 by his friend Varnhagen van Ense to change his name from the very Jewish Levy. Two years later the formal adoption as a surname of the name of his birthplace, Rodenberg, was formally accepted by the Elector of Hesse-Kassel. Curiously it is stated that he never converted to Christianity despite possessing a ' Christian soul'.
Just as curiously, German sources also state that when he married in 1863 it was to the Roman Catholic daughter of a wealthy Trieste factory owner. This is surprising, and needs examination. Did Giustina abjure her Jewish faith whilst in Trieste? Her youngest brother Eduard followed this route when he went to Vienna. Did Giustina really convert to Catholicism? It seems unlikely, but evidence may survive in Trieste. Where did Julius and Giustina marry? Was it indeed in Berlin, rather than the more likely Trieste? I wish the Jewish community of Trieste would allow a simple examination of the records.
When their only child was born in 1864 there is no indication of her religion, but it seems that this daughter was baptised as a Protestant by Herman Von Soden in 1880 when she was sixteen years old. Von Soden was an important New Testament scholar.
Their daughter Alice married Major Paul Nohring in 1898, and went with him to Strasbourg. Two years later son Julius Paul Richard Nohring was born. Known as Richard Nohring, it was he who inherited from his grandmother's cousin, Sir Ernest Schiff, in London in 1923.
I believe this Richard Nohring may have died in the United States in 1968 leaving a widow.
Monterey Peninsula Herald, CA Aug 19, 1968 p4
Richard Paul Nohring, co-owner of Merle’s Treasure Chest on Ocean avenue at Lincoln street and a resident of Carmel for the past 38 years, died yesterday in a local hospital after an extended illness. Mr. Nohring was born Aug. 31, 1900, in Berlin, Germany, and was a naturalized citizen of the United States. With his wife and only survivor, Mrs. Matha Nohring, he made his home at Dolores street and 14th avenue. Private inurnment has been held in the Little Chapel by-the-Sea. The Paul Mortuary was in charge of arrangements. Friends wishing to make contributions in the memory of Mr. Nohring may do so to the Colbalt Therapy Unit, Community Hospital, Carmel.
Copyright (c) 2008 The Monterey County Herald

NOHRING RICHARD P 1901 08 31 RODENBER MALE GE MONTEREY 1968 08 18 525386871 67



http://www.kellerbriefe.ch/frameset.html?http://www.kellerbriefe.ch/rodenbergj.htm 



Gattin von Ferdinand Julius Rodenberg, mit Keller befreundet 

seit Kellers Berlin Aufenthalt 1850-55 

Anzahl registrierte Briefe: 5 an, 3 von Keller (5 ZB Zürich) 



  
21. 3. 1878  Justina Rodenberg an Keller 
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Berlin, W. Margarethenstr. 121 März 1878. 
Sehr verehrter Herr! 
 Ich habe in diesen Tagen Ihr "Fähnlein der 
sieben Aufrechten" gelesen und eine solche Handvoll reine 
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Gattin von Ferdinand Julius Rodenberg, mit Keller befreundet 
seit Kellers Berlin Aufenthalt 1850-55 
Anzahl registrierte Briefe: 5 an, 3 von Keller (5 ZB Zürich) 



  
21. 3. 1878  Justina Rodenberg an Keller 
<ZB: Ms. GK 79f1 Nr. 90> 
Berlin, W. Margarethenstr. 121 März 1878. 
Sehr verehrter Herr! 
 Ich habe in diesen Tagen Ihr "Fähnlein der 
sieben Aufrechten" gelesen und eine solche Handvoll reine 
Schweizerluft dabei geathmet, daß ich Ihnen aufrichtig für diese 
Wohlthat danken muß. Sie auf Ihrer reinen Höhe, mit dem 
blauen See unter Ihnen, den schneeigen Gipfeln vor Ihnen und 
dem edlen Weben und Schaffen in Ihnen, können sich wohl 
kaum einen Begriff davon machen wie demjenigen zu Muthe ist 
| der aus dem wüsten, unruhvollen und wahrheitsleeren 
Modetreiben der Welt heraus, plötzlich einen Blick thut in Ihre 
Welt, in das echte und rechte Gemüthsleben gesunder Gestalten, 
die sich natürlich geben, weil sie natürlich sind, welche Poesie 
athmen, weil ihnen Poesie eingehaucht worden. Ob man mit den 
braven Sieben an der Wirthstafel sitzt, ob man mit dem 
Liebespaar auf dem See fährt, ob man über die tolle Komik in 
der Kaserne lacht, - oder über den tiefen Sinn der improvisirten 
Rede des prächtigen Schneidersohn ernstlich nachdenkt - immer 
fühlt man | die Nähe des Poeten und labt sich daran. - Verzeihen 
Sie mir, daß ich so viel Worte gesagt; ich konnte das, was ich 
empfunden nicht kürzer wiedergeben, und Ihnen so viel zu 
sagen war mir Bedürfniß. 
     Auf Ihre Gedichte freue ich mich; möchte nur bald darauf 
auch eine Novelle folgen! 
     Mit dem Ausdruck aufrichtigster Verehrung 
Ihre 
ergebene Justina Rodenberg 
     

  
15. 10. 1878  Justina Rodenberg an Keller 
<ZB: Ms. GK 79f1 Nr. 98; unveröffentlicht> 
Berlin, W. Margarethenstr. 1. 15 October 1878. 
Mein verehrtester Herr Doctor! 
 Bei einer unserer gemüthlichen 
Abendsitzungen in der "Meise" äußerten Sie sich einmal 
verwundert darüber, daß ich als Frau eines Schriftstellers so 
ruhig über andere Schriftsteller reden ließe. Werden Sie sich nun 
abermals wundern und zwar in entgegengesetzter Richtung, 
wenn ich es bin, die Ihnen den neuen Roman meines Mannes 
übergiebt? Ich habe mir | aber diese Vergünstigung ausgebeten, 
weil mir dies Werk durch seine lange und ernste 
Entstehungsgeschichte besonders ans Herz gewachsen ist und 
weil ich es aus eben diesem Grunde am liebsten selbst in die 
Hände eines Mannes lege, den ich als Dichter und Künstler 
ebenso liebe und verehre, wie ich mich zu ihm als Menschen 
hingezogen fühle. Aus Ihrem Munde einmal zu hören, daß in 
dem Buche Gutes enthalten ist, daß es Ihnen einige Freude 
bereitet hat, würde mich geradezu beglücken, | denn ich weiß 
was Ihr Urtheil bedeutet. Verzeihen Sie daß ich Ihnen dies so 
offen bekenne und erlauben Sie, daß ich den Eindruck meiner 
Dreistigkeit durch Einsendung beifolgender Correctur mildere 
die ich meinem Mann eigentlich entwende, damit Sie ein paar 
Wochen früher die Freude haben sollen die geist- und 
anmuthvolle Kritik zu lesen, die für das Novemberheft der 
Rundschau bestimmt ist. Von den vielen Druckfehlern müssen 
Sie freilich absehen. Daß sie im Druck nicht | stehen bleiben, 
dafür wird Professor Scherer sicher gewissenhaft sorgen. - Nur 
die Erinnerung an Ihre Freundlichkeit während unseres schönen 
Zusammenseins hat mir den Muth verliehen diese Zeilen zu 
schreiben. Nehmen Sie dieselben nachsichtig auf und indem ich 
die herzlichsten Grüße meines Mannes beifüge, bin ich mit dem 
Audrucke aufrichtigster Verehrung 
Ihre 
ergebene Justina Rodenberg 
      

  

14. 11. 1878  Keller an Justina Rodenberg 
<GSA 81/VI, 7, 11; GB 3.2, S. 363> 
Zürich 14 Nov 1878. 
Hochverehrte Frau! 
 Mit drei Herzkammern danke ich Ihnen für 
Ihre reiche Gabe vom 15t. Octobris, für den gütigen Brief, mit 
welchem Sie meine Eitelkeit so freundlich einbalsamiren, für 
den Roman und für die Scherer'sche Recension. 
     Den Roman habe ich in Einem Zuge ausgeschlürft und mich 
anderthalb Tage daran geletzt. Ich gratulire dem Herren Julius, 
Ihrem Rodenberger, von ganzem Herzen zu der tüchtigen und 
reifen Arbeit, die als Familiengeschichte, als historischer Roman 
und als Zeitbild überall gleich typisch ist. | Als ein 
Hauptkriterium möchte ich die Gestalt der Helene betrachten; 
sie ist eine wahre Allegorie des elsäßisch-französischen Wesens 
von 1870 und nachher und doch voll individuellsten Lebens, so 
daß sie zur ganzen tragischen Wirkung kommt. 
     Sie können sich denken, wie ich mit all' den Menschen in 
Berlin herumspaziert bin und den Sonnenschein über den 
Spreewäldern mit genossen habe und mich überdies freute, 
keinen Gründern u Hallunken zu begegnen, da ja Herr Bestvater 
der Schlimmste ist. Alle Berechtigung u Wohlthat Juvenal'scher 
Werke in Ehren gehalten, ist es mir poetisch doch | nur ganz 
behaglich, wo es menschlich aber ehrlich hergeht in solchen 
Hervorbringungen, und ich sehe nicht ein, warum ich immer mit 
dem Gesichte eines Polizeicommissärs dasitzen soll, wenn ich 
einen Roman lese. 
     Ihre Gelassenheit aber, verehrteste Frau Doctorin, mit welcher 
Sie über die Andern vom Metier sprechen hören, ist mir 
erklärlich durch die innere Gelassenheit, mit welcher der Herr 
Gemahl seine Geschicke austheilt, wenn er schreibt. Das ist 
auch eine Muse, welche Manchem fehlt. 
     Herr Professor Scherer hat mich auch herrlich einbalsamirt 
und vor der Welt geehrt; wenn er | nur überall so recht hätte, wie 
bei dem Hadlaub, dessen Unfertigkeit mir leider schon lange 
bekannt ist. Ich verspreche aber dem freundlichen Gönner und 
Gelehrten, zunächst nicht so bald wieder eine Schulstudie 
vorzunehmen, über welcher die Hauptsache verdunstet. 
     Hoffentlich sind Sie nun im vollen Zuge eines warmen und 
vergnügten Winterlebens, wozu ich der ganzen kleinen Familie 
alles Gute wünsche, Fleiß, Appetit und Lebenslust. Amen! 
Mit Verehrung u 
Ergebenheit                                               
Ihr 
                                               G. Keller 
      

  

22. 11. 1878  Justina Rodenberg an Keller 
<ZB: Ms. GK 79f1 Nr. 99; unveröffentlicht> 
Berlin, W. Margarethenstr. 1.22 November 1878 
Verehrtester Herr! 
 Sie haben mir durch Ihren Brief eine solche 
Herzensfreude gemacht, daß ich, selbst auf die Gefahr hin Ihnen 
damit lästig zu fallen, Ihnen doch warm und aufrichtig dafür 
danken muß. Die neuste Arbeit meines Mannes hat für mich und 
sicher auch für ihn durch Ihre Sanktion diejenige Weihe erhalten 
die er erstrebt und ich erträumt habe, und mir ist's, seitdem ich 
Ihre Worte | gelesen, als ob dieselben in Lapidarschrift dem 
Werke eingegraben wären. 
     Aber das was Sie so hochherzig einem Fremden sagen weckt 
uns das Verlangen wieder etwas Neues von Ihnen zu lesen, und 
wir Alle (ich meine damit das ganze Publikum) wünschen 
sehnlichst, daß Sie uns wieder eine Novelle bescheeren. Wie oft 
denken wir noch an den Abend am Zürichersee zurück, da Sie 
uns zuerst von Ihren literarischen Plänen sprachen und uns so 
lebendig den Rahmen vorführten der nur des Bildes | harrt, das 
Sie hineinmalen werden um als vollendetes Werk Ihre zahllosen 
Verehrer zu erfreuen. 
     Mein Mann grüßt heute durch mich und sagt Ihnen wohl 
einmal selbst Alles das was er Ihnen zu sagen wünscht. Mir aber 
erlauben Sie daß ich Sie meiner aufrichtigen Verehrung 
versichere, mit der ich bin Ihre 
                                               dankbar 
ergebene                                               Justina Rodenberg 
      

  

9. 4. 1881  Keller an Justina Rodenberg 
<GSA 81/VI, 7, 11; GB 3.2, S. 387> 
Zürich 9 April 1881. 
Höchstverehrte Frau Doktorin! 
 Neben der Dankespflicht, welche 
ich für Ihre gütig freundlichen Zeilen vom 28 Januar endlich zu 
erfüllen komme, habe ich zugleich eine große Bitte an Sie zu 
richten: nämlich um Ihre huldvolle Fürsprache bei dem 
Beherrscher der Deutsch. Rundschau, daß er den Unmuth, den 
ihm die Plackerei mit meinen Manuskript-Sendungen 
verursachte, nicht in seiner ganzen Größe bestehen lassen wolle! 
Wie oft habe ich mich geschämt, wenn ich mir vorstellte, wie 
der Herr am Frühstückstische über meine Faulheit und 
Wortbrüchigkeit wetterte und ich im Geiste als ein ergrautes 
armes Sünderlein dabei stand und demüthiglich das 
Kopfschütteln der Hausfrau gewahrte, die ihre heitere 
Morgenstimmung getrübt sah! Dann faßte ich die besten 
heiligsten Vorsätze und vergoß die heißesten Thränen, ach um 
gleich in die alte Hölle | der Verderbniß zurückzusinken, sobald 
wieder ein schöner freier Monat vor mir war. Der einzige 
Milderungsgrund besteht darin, daß ich doch immer bei der 
Sache blieb und sie nicht aus den Augen ließ, ausgenommen am 
Montag vor acht Tagen, wo ich die Handschrift gerade am 
letzten Tage noch schmählich im Stiche ließ und einem Gelage 
nachlief. Und dabei habe ich mit verhärtetem Gemüthe 
gegessen, getrunken, gesungen und jubiliert und einen großen 
goldenen Becher in Gestalt eines Hundes, eines sitzenden 
Jagdrüden, mit eisernem Stachelhalsband, unzählige Male 
aufgehoben, als ob es keinen Julius Rodenberg in der Welt 
gäbe! 
     Ihre allzu wohlwollenden Äußerungen über den Gr. H. habe 
ich wie ein Glas Ananaspunsch eingeschlürft und die 
Bescheidenheit eine gute Frau sein lassen. Ich durfte übrigens 
die Süßigkeit menschlich fraulicher Gesinnung wohl goutieren, 
indem eine schreckliche Art Kritik (nicht diejenige der 
Germanisten) aufzutauchen begann, worin meine Arbeit | und 
Kunst anerkennungsvoll behandelt, der Nicht-Held des 
Romanes aber als ein famos geschilderter ganz miserabler Tropf 
gekennzeichnet wurde. Das ist eine verzwickte Art des Beifalls 
und die gerechte Strafe für meine Sünden gegen den Gebietiger 
Julius. 
     Ich hoffe, daß Sie mit Mann und Tochter einen lustigen 
Winter passirt und einen schönen frohen Frühling angetreten 
haben, und denke mir gern, daß der Weg ein bewußtes verehrtes 
Ehepaar wieder ein Mal nach Italien und durch die Schweiz 
führen werde, in welcher Phantasie ich mit eingewöhnten 
Gefühlen verharre als Ihr ergebenster 
Gottfr. Keller